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  Is the Watchtower Society the only one to blame?

  by The wanderer in

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  having spent time on this discussion board.

  there has been quite a number of negative .

  amount of damage in various ways, but are .

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  Blaming the Watchtower Society

  Having spent time on this discussion board
  there has been quite a number of negative
  threads concerning the Watchtower Society.

  True, the Watchtower has done a tremendous
  amount of damage in various ways, but are
  they the only ones to blame?

  Are We Partially to Blame?

  One could make the argument that they were
  deceived by the Watchtower Society and the
  fact of the matter is that the spin doctors
  and propagandists in Brooklyn have had
  more than a century to practice their trade.

  Easy to scapegoat

  However, we have to look deep within our-
  selves and ask the question "why?" "Why,
  when I had the opportunity to research, in-
  vestigate, study and do a background check
  on the Watchtower Society did I not do it?"

  Prior to the Internet

  Obviously, prior to the internet it would have
  been a more challenging if not, a more difficult
  quest to gather the information about the Watch-
  tower Society that we have at our finger tips today.
  Thank goodness for modern technology.

  Shouldering some of the responsibility

  Although, this maybe true, it still does not entirely
  excuse us for allowing a corrupt corporation to totally
  and unequivocally bind us to their dogmatic doctrines.

  Respectfully,

  The Wanderer
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  Would you consider becoming a Jehovah's Witness again---temporarily?

  by The wanderer in

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  becoming a jehovah's witness again

  before you judge the question negatively, it is very .

  important for individuals to understand that there is .

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  Becoming a Jehovah's Witness Again

  Before you judge the question negatively, it is very
  important for individuals to understand that there is
  a good motivation behind the question.

  Many individuals on this discussion board have either
  read, written or know someone who has written a book
  on the subject of Jehovah's Witnesses.

  For only a short while

  There has been a recent release of a DVD known as
  "knocking" which aired on television recently and it
  depicted the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Watchtower
  Society in a positive light. So, the question is...

  A Made for TV Documentary or Movie

  Would you consider being in a television documentary
  or movie if the opportunity presented itself? Either as
  an ex-Jehovah's Witness or portraying one in a movie?
  Or perhaps, a member of a cult?

  Not a proposition

  It is important to stress that I am not proposing or
  offering the opportunity to become an extra in a
  movie. However, I would be curious to see whether
  or not individuals would be interested in participating
  in one should the opportunity arise?

  Respectfully,

  The Wanderer
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  Disfellowshiping and the United Nations

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  when the story broke forth

  being a newbie on this discussion board and .

  following the news concerning the united nations .

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  When the Story Broke Forth

  Being a newbie on this discussion board and
  following the news concerning the United Nations
  and the Watchtower, there are a number of questions
  relating to this issue that need to be asked.
  
  Exactly, who was responsible for the discovery con-
  cerning the United Nations and The Watchtower
  Society?
  
  It is well known that the article in the Guardian news-
  paper brought forth the story, but was it one or several
  of Jehovah's Witnesses that discovered the relationship?

  The purging begins

  It has come to my attention that quite a number of
  Jehovah's Witnesses were disfellowshiped in England
  and other parts of the world after the scandal was
  discovered.

  Present Day

  To date does anybody know whether or not the Society
  ever informed the rank and file within the organization?
  In addition, would an individual become disfellowshiped,
  reproved or experience some sort of discipline within the
  congregation if he or she were speaking about it?

  Any information regarding these questions would be
  appreciated.

  Respectfully,

  The Wanderer
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  The irritating slant to almost everything negative I have seen on Witnesses

  by free2beme in

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  when i left the witnesses, a person from work gave me a video about the witnesses that his church uses.

  i thought it would be interesting, so i set down and watched it.

  what i found was another example of one church taking about another, to then counter with points that support their way of thinking.

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  In all honesty, I must agree. To my way of thinking all of these
  religions and churches employ outstanding spin doctors and
  propagandists in order to "enlighten" the ignorant masses.
  
  

  Respectfully,

  The Wanderer
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  Does God have a name...assuming he exists?

  by The wanderer in

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  if god has a name is that name jehovah?

  having studied the bible for many years along with.

  individuals on this discussion board, often times it.

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  If God has a name is that name Jehovah?

  Having studied the Bible for many years along with
  individuals on this discussion board, often times it
  crosses my mind whether or not God has a name.

  If so, is that name Jehovah as what we were taught
  as Jehovah's Witnesses? The name Yahweh in Hebrew
  and the Tetragrammaton YHWH, do these have any
  significance?

  Not defending the Watchtower

  The questions presented above are not in support
  of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. However,
  curiosity still grips me regarding whether or not God
  has a name...or does God even exist?

  Although, I am not sure of either of these questions
  I still will respect the name of God whether it is
  Jehovah, Yahweh or anything else, should he exist.

  Still searching for the meaning of life

  Admittedly, I am still searching and trying to
  make sense as to who, what, where, why or
  when, we as human beings were placed here
  and for what reason .

  Understandably, the Watchtower does not have
  the answers and as of present I am an agnostic
  who is very hesitant to even consider entertaining
  the thought of becoming involved with another
  religion.

  Did anyone on this discussion board ever think
  about whether or not God exists?

  Respectfully,

  The Wanderer
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  The pro's and con's of being in the truth

  by The wanderer in

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  it is understandable that individuals who read this thread will more.

  than likely become offended and to those who feel as such i will .

  apologize.

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  To Each His Own

  It is understandable that individuals who read this thread will more
  than likely become offended and to those who feel as such I will
  apologize. Perhaps, those who have an absolute contempt for the
  Watchtower Society should stop reading so as to not become so
  offended .

  Certain Positives about the Organization

  Admitedly, an individual who did not have a very good education
  or who lacked good study habits or disipline, being in the organ-
  ization did teach these skills. Honestly, there were certain things
  that were advantageous such as public speaking, oratory and
  commentary and the courage to go door to door with an unpopular
  message.

  If these skills are applied correctly in life, they can enhance you in
  your career or in everyday life.

  Not an apologist but a realist

  Does this mean that I either defend or excuse the Watchtower
  Bible and Tract Society? No, in the eyes of humanity they are
  still guilty for misleading millions of individuals and causing
  more harm then good. However, considering myself an open
  minded individual, one has to take into account the pro's and
  con's of any given situation---unfortunately there are more con's.

  Respectfully,

  The Wanderer
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  Low Key Warnings in the Truth

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  awake to the watchtower

  most individuals on this discussion board probably had.

  a number of low key warnings regarding whether or not.

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  Awake to the Watchtower

  Most individuals on this discussion board probably had
  a number of low key warnings regarding whether or not
  they were in the "truth" while they were in the organ-
  ization.

  The Questions Begin

  From my own perspective the signals were that the
  Watchtower Society always made an effort to actively
  condemn other religions--and rather harshly!

  Personally, my thoughts were "doesn't the Watchtower
  ever see the flip side of the coin regarding other religions
  or do they focus primarily on all the negative factors?"

  Giving Themselves a Pat on the Back

  Things were too "perfect" in the Watchtower World
  "good news" was always being reported and a different
  perspective or a contrasting view was rarely, if ever, seen.

  Jokes by elders, or circuit overseers would be laughed at
  almost as if the laughs were orchestrated or on cue. Most
  of the time the jokes were really not that funny at all.

  The Clucking Hens

  One thing that was learned in the kingdom hall was that
  it was the best place for gossip. It seemed that everyone
  knew everything about each other's lives. This was a
  complete turnoff.

  Imagine this "brother" is supposed to lay their life down for you
  should the occasion arise, and yet they had no problem ripping
  you into pieces behind your back.

  The Beginning of Doubts Spelled the End

  These were some of my underlying points while in the
  organization. Although, they may seem petty to some,
  to my way of thinking, it started a flood of questions.

  Recalling the generation change of 1995, as the "new
  understanding" as it was referred to, started to make
  me an "on again, " "off again," Jehovah's Witness. It
  was my personal turning point regarding the "truth."

  Did anyone else feel similarly?

  Respectfully,

  The Wanderer
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  Need Your Opinions.. To have dinner with inquiring minds or not??

  by Lady Liberty in

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  hello dear friends... well, many of you are aware of my on going daily saga.

  my husband and i left the organization about a year and a half ago.

  we have not been disfellowshipped, nor have we disassociated ourselves.

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  I do not necessarily think it would be a bad thing to have dinner with this couple. However, prepare yourself for an evening of probing and questioning.

  Chances are good that these "friends" might have an ulterior motivation so do not drop your guard on them.

  Regarding telling them about your findings? I would say, never in a million years.

  Why? Because these people are trained to go after individuals such as you and your husband--free thinkers

  Respectfully,

  The Wanderer
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  The Watchrtower Society and "Crimes against Humanity."

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  the concentration camps

  often times, when the statement "crimes against humanity" is either.

  written or spoken, powerful mental images of individuals being abused.

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  The Concentration Camps

  Often times, when the statement "Crimes against Humanity" is either
  written or spoken, powerful mental images of individuals being abused
  tortured or murdered are imagined.
  
  However, this discussion is not about physical abuse or torture as so
  often is depicted by grainy black and white reels of film shown as doc-
  umentary programs after the course of the second world war.

  Crisis of Conscience

  Having read Crisis of Conscience by Raymond Franz, a book that
  not only raises eyebrows but questions as well, the reader is left
  wondering whether or not the Watchtower Society is guilty of
  "Crimes against Humanity" in an emotional or spiritual sense?

  Considering all the years of cover ups, scandals, child molestation issues
  and the total brainwashing dictation an individual undergoes while associate-
  ed with the organization, it leaves one to ponder whether or not it carries
  a similar responsibility toward humanity as did Hitler's Third Reich?

  ...Thoughts to consider.

  Respectfully,

  The Wanderer
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  The UN and the Society---the deciding factor

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  the united nations and the watchtower society

  having researched this issue thoroughly it was.

  the deciding factor on my leaving the organ-.

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  The United Nations and The Watchtower Society

  Having researched this issue thoroughly it was
  the deciding factor on my leaving the organ-
  ization. Taking into consideration both views
  of apologists and apostates this was the
  conclusion I drew regarding the matter.

  The Watchtower Society's view of the United Nations

  After having studied the Revelation book I was convinced that the United Nations was controlled
  by Satan the Devil as we as Jehovah's Witnesses
  were taught to believe.

  As formerly mentioned I took into consideration what both sides had to
  say regarding the issue. However, this statement was the nail in the
  coffin regarding the organization.

  The UN is actually a blasphemous counterfeit of God's Messianic Kingdom by his Prince of Peace, Jesus Christ—to whose princely rule there will be no end.

  The Watchtower and the Blasphemous Counterfeit

  The above excerpt is a statement, belief and a position regarding the
  United Nations. No amount of camouflage words such as "registration"
  used by the Watchtower Society was going to justify any sort of
  involvement with the United Nations.
  
  According to my way of thinking, it was over for the Watchtower. Although, years of doubts and other experiences made me think twice about the organization [generation change 1995] the deciding factor was the UN involvement.

  Respectfully,

  The Wanderer